http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/feed/? Latest topics Mon, 04 May 2009 20:59:55 GMT 10 http://hitskin.com/themes/11/27/78/i_logo.png http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/feed/? http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/response-to-english-language-handout-t185.htm kayzerthethird We have discussed (but not yet exhausted) the issues relating to the evolving English language and I now have a level of understanding which varies from one school of thought to another. The very clever and rather interesting, Jean Aitchison, (a British Linguist) examines words and dissects the very language which impacts on us all. She believes that, ‘Humans mop up words like sponges.’ And, ‘Word meanings are like stretchy pullovers, whose outline contour is visible, but whose detailed ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 04 May 2009 20:59:55 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/response-to-english-language-handout-t185.htm#338 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/response-to-english-language-handout-t185.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-developments-of-the-english-language-t184.htm angiehirst The Developments of the English Language Simply through reading these few extracts the evidence that English is an evolving becomes astonishingly clear. As Groves (1993) states ‘Words have always changed meaning’ and I agree that with her when she follows this comment with her desire to ‘keep an enormous variety going’ within the English language. The vast and often entertaining differences, between this country’s regional dialects is what gives the English Language its charm! ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:50:10 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-developments-of-the-english-language-t184.htm#337 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-developments-of-the-english-language-t184.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/what-does-it-tell-you-about-teaching-english-t183.htm pratiksha1 The issues relating to the English language and teaching of it. Overall, I found all three readings difficult to understand, especially Swift. I found Johnson’s preface the most insightful and I was surprised at his insight into the constantly evolving nature of the English language. Significantly, he states the invention of the dictionary will not ‘fix’ the English language nor stop it from evolving. I like the analogy to life itself and how it cannot remain immortal or stay ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:54:41 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/what-does-it-tell-you-about-teaching-english-t183.htm#336 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/what-does-it-tell-you-about-teaching-english-t183.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-readings-and-teaching-ideas-t165.htm amandawoo Readings I don’t remember much about studying “The Franklin’s Tale” at ‘A’ level ten years ago, only that I faced my fear and ended up enjoying it. I think that there is a stigma attached to “Chaucer” and “Shakespeare” but if you break the tales down into manageable chunks, you can get a lot of enjoyment out of reading and analysing them. I found “The Pardoner discussed” and “The Death of a Salesman” very useful tools and I was interested to discover more ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:29:46 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-readings-and-teaching-ideas-t165.htm#305 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-readings-and-teaching-ideas-t165.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-stuff-t163.htm liane.klingbeil@bathspa.o Through reading the literature on Chaucer and ‘The Pardoner’s Tale’ I have realised what a deep insight into human nature he has been able to present. He had a gift for developing characters; I had no idea that the tales were such a psychological journey into the minds of such a variety of characters. This was probably facilitated by his experience as a public servant, his wide reading and his work in customs, through this he would have met a wide variety of people and experienced many ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:49:02 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-stuff-t163.htm#300 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-stuff-t163.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/phew-remembered-my-password-its-been-a-while-t169.htm Jon The Death of a Salesman article made me realise how important it is not to patronise the time that Chaucer was writing in. When you think of the 14th Century its easy to think of a diseased, simple country with no time for poetry. Add to this the unfamiliar spelling, that might also be seen as simple - and pupils could be forgiven for thinking that any hype about Chaucer is overstated. But a recurring theme in all the readings is the fact that so much of The CTs is still relevant today. I liked ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:04:51 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/phew-remembered-my-password-its-been-a-while-t169.htm#313 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/phew-remembered-my-password-its-been-a-while-t169.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-and-reflections-on-chaucer-t170.htm pratiksha1 Thoughts and reflections on Chaucer I also have enjoyed reading Chaucer and I loved the drama activity in class. Dividing the story and sharing out the various scenes gave a good overview of the story and made reading the text easier. The class activity was a powerful example of how such stories can be adapted to modern day society and make learning fun and accessible. I still think it would be a challenging text to bring alive in the classroom particularly as it is written in Middle ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:26:02 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-and-reflections-on-chaucer-t170.htm#314 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-and-reflections-on-chaucer-t170.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/comments-on-articles-t181.htm robloaring In Johnsons initial comments on the future of English; he alludes to the continued changing of the English language. Johnson considers that the only way for English to remain, for any length of time without major alteration, would be for the nation to be barely above the level of barbarians and secluded from strangers. In suggesting this he mentions that only those with the time to think and consider creating words, will effect language change “and every increase of knowledge, whether real ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:55 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/comments-on-articles-t181.htm#329 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/comments-on-articles-t181.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t182.htm Fi Robert Cawdry’s A Table Alphabetical and The Preface to Johnson’s Dictionary I liked the comparison of attitudes to language between Robert Cawdry’s Introduction and Johnson’s Preface. Cawdry (and “sonne’s”) A Table Alphabetical is written to preserve the English Language from three main threats that he identifies including: “over-sea language,” British persons journeying to France and returning with “French English” and similarly “English Italianated.” ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:42:32 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t182.htm#330 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t182.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/swift-johnson-and-orwell-t179.htm Immalee Swift’s arguments for trying to preserve language in one static state seem short-sighted and unsubstantiated. He seems to constantly make value judgements about language that are only based on current cultural ideas, namely that Latin is somehow superior to other languages, and therefore languages that have more Latin in them are more refined and better. His judgements about the quality of language are ostensibly about the sound of the language – ‘This perpetual Disposition to shorten our ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:30:14 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/swift-johnson-and-orwell-t179.htm#324 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/swift-johnson-and-orwell-t179.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/standards-debate-t176.htm Jon The striking thing for me about Johnson's Preface is the way he speaks directly to us - he imagines our response as future readers, and so had in mind that his work would be remembered - even if it would eventually be "derided" by us. I love the soberness in the way he makes this point - realising the limits of his work and that it will not "clear the world at once from folly, vanity and affectation". This soberness makes the groveling snobbishness of Jonathan Swift ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:15:32 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/standards-debate-t176.htm#320 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/standards-debate-t176.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/language-debate-t180.htm Joanna Moan The preservation of the English language and concern over declining abilities to use it effectively has worried academics for centuries. Jonathan Swift wrote to the Earl of Oxford in 1712 of his fears of the ‘corruption’ of the language. He felt that language need not be constantly changing if the nation is stable and without threat from invading countries. Swift criticised the imitation of the language of the courts in daily life and the introduction of new and ‘conceited’ words and ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:18:17 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/language-debate-t180.htm#326 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/language-debate-t180.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/ummmm-t174.htm Venetia ...have to admit I was really hoping someone else would have posted their view so that I could respond to them, but here goes: I always thought that Johnson was incredibly pompous (possibly due to his portrayal in Blackadder), so I was surprised to see his admission that despite his original mission being to catalogue the English language and in so doing 'put a stop to those alterations which time and chance have hitherto been suffered to make in it without opposition', it is unrealstic ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:47:34 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/ummmm-t174.htm#318 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/ummmm-t174.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/my-response-to-the-english-articlesor-rant-t178.htm liane.klingbeil@bathspa.o The Preface to Johnson’s Dictionary, first published in 1755. I am in agreement that a dictionary has a valuable purpose of prolonging and maintaining the English language, it has strong preservative powers that as Johnson emphasizes ‘preserve words and phrases from mutability’. At the time at which this is written I think the preservation of the English language was much more of an issue, the language was fragile and Johnson contributed to the languages sustainability through the ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:40:31 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/my-response-to-the-english-articlesor-rant-t178.htm#323 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/my-response-to-the-english-articlesor-rant-t178.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t177.htm Melissa Ricketts Preface to Johnson’s Dictionary Despite being somewhat outdated, I like Johnson’s rationale for his dictionary ‘to put a stop to those alterations which time and chance have hitherto been suffered to make in it without opposition’. Although the evolution of language is natural and necessary, I think that it is good that he wanted to preserve something that is essentially ‘English’ and wanted the language to survive. The idea that the legacy of people and places can be captured ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:05:38 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t177.htm#322 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/reflection-on-articles-t177.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-english-language-reflection-on-articles-t175.htm amandawoo “Politics and the English Language” George Orwell I enjoyed reading the article by George Orwell, as it made me think about things I take for granted, like the ineffective use of ‘dying’ and ‘incompatible’ metaphors and how people often write with a lack of precision using ‘phrases tacked together’ thereby manipulating the reader. I often notice this when proof reading my friends’ assignments or editing my own work, although I’m not consciously aware that I do this when ... The issues relating to the English language and the teaching of it Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:44:54 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-english-language-reflection-on-articles-t175.htm#319 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/the-issues-relating-to-the-english-language-and-the-teaching-of-it-f12/the-english-language-reflection-on-articles-t175.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/chaucer-the-canterbury-tales-t173.htm angiehirst Chaucer- The Canterbury Tales I found that the readings and exercises have definitely fed into my knowledge of the Canterbury tales. I also feel that by looking and the development of the English language right through from before the emergence of Beowulf has really helped my enjoyment of the text. Having first looked at the English language almost as an evolutionary object, I found that when I came to read the Pardoners tale in Middle English, the task had transformed into an enjoyable ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:48:27 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/chaucer-the-canterbury-tales-t173.htm#317 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/chaucer-the-canterbury-tales-t173.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thanks-all-t172.htm Admin Just to say that I enjoyed reading these brief posts. And that I have taught Chaucer to all ages and they've always loved it. Ninety-nine per cent of the time the 'difficulties' of a text are in the teacher's mind and nowhere else. Kids have more open minds, and as long as the teacher's matches theirs, it's all OK... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:00:17 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thanks-all-t172.htm#316 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thanks-all-t172.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-ramblings-on-chaucer-t171.htm robloaring The pardoner is a many faceted being and as that common in the tales perhaps that’s what makes Chaucer’s Canterbury tales initially a little daunting. The pardoner is a clever character in many ways as he is almost double bluffing the pilgrims by being so open about his business whilst telling a story that surely no one in his business would dare too. He is letting them in on the secrets and lies that are his business, as foolish as a magician revealing his illusions. Yet because he, as a ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:33:34 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-ramblings-on-chaucer-t171.htm#315 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-ramblings-on-chaucer-t171.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-teaching-chaucer-t168.htm Joanna Moan The Edsitement lesson plan is very comprehensive and if I were to teach the wife of Bath I would certainly use it as a starting point. I think it is important to understand how to read Middle English with the correct pronunciation before delving into the text. I studied the prologue for A level and I cannot remember discussing pronunciation although we did read the text aloud as a class as best we could. The information online teaching you to talk in Middle English is useful but I would ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:45:12 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-teaching-chaucer-t168.htm#308 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-teaching-chaucer-t168.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/my-reflections-t164.htm Immalee The Pardoner’s Tale is really complex, but not because of the language, but because of the confusing format, of part frank confession, part moral lecture and part story, then back to talking to the group of pilgrims again. I don’t think I would have made much sense out of it without our drama exercises in class and those two bits of explanation that Stephen sent us. This is the first time I’ve tried to read any of The Canterbury Tales. I’ve been surprised at how easy to understand ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:49:25 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/my-reflections-t164.htm#304 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/my-reflections-t164.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/the-canterbury-tales-t167.htm kayzerthethird Chaucer The Canterbury Tales examines and explores the attitudes and actions of individuals who were very much part of English society way back in those olden times. He delves into a satirical tone, highlighting the time in which he lived and focuses on the influences and characters associated with religion, deceitfulness and sexuality. Chaucer uses humour to lure his audience and in my opinion, to hide (to a certain extent) his true distaste of certain characters and their beliefs. He is able ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:08:53 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/the-canterbury-tales-t167.htm#307 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/the-canterbury-tales-t167.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-t166.htm Melissa Ricketts Like Alice, I have always felt rather smug that I have avoided The Canterbury Tales, until now... At first glance I found the language really difficult to understand and was thinking it would be difficult to get pupils interested in learning about Chaucer as I was prejudiced by my own fear. I found it really interesting learning about the historical context and how Chaucer fits into Middle English although I was less enthusiastic about reading The Canterbury Tales. I liked the idea of us acting ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:15:31 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-t166.htm#306 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/thoughts-on-chaucer-t166.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-t162.htm Alice Walker Reflections on Chaucer Until quite recently I had always felt quite pleased that I had got through an entire school career without having to encounter Chaucer. I remember pitying the English sets that had to study The Canterbury Tales and feeling quietly smug that I was studying a text I could actually understand. To a certain degree this prejudice still remains, and despite enjoying my familiarisation with the first English novelist, I am still not bowled over with enthusiasm for ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:53:41 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-t162.htm#299 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/reflections-on-chaucer-t162.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/teaching-ideas-t161.htm Venetia Re-reading the Pardoner's Tale with all the translations and footnotes has really helped me to assimilate the story and that coupled with the knowledge I obtained from reading 'Death of a Salesman' has made me feel a lot not more confident about Chaucer, especially as I had never really looked at any of his work until the start of this course. I didn't expect this sort of literature to be so easily brought to life, and I feel that with a bit more thought, advice and experience I would be happy ... Pardoner's Tale Discussion Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:15:21 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/teaching-ideas-t161.htm#298 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/pardoner-s-tale-discussion-f13/teaching-ideas-t161.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/sorry-its-late-poetry-t160.htm kayzerthethird A sea with lapping waves Waves As the haze of the horizon sits dustily upon the water’s edge, The rippling contours climb towards the cool clammy rocks. Where the remaining heat from the tiring sun fizzes with courage; And the waves ebb away to the beat of the tick tocking clock. The mysteries are forever hidden beneath the haunting layers, Of cerulean clusters reflecting within the deepest cobalt blue, Which has stolen away men once brave forever in our prayers A ... Children Writing Poetry Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:45:09 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/sorry-its-late-poetry-t160.htm#297 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/sorry-its-late-poetry-t160.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-homework-t159.htm pratiksha1 Poetry homework Ode to my mobile phone (FYI Nokia 6500 slide) Thy shiny sleek exterior, Is pleasing to the eye, Screaming and pulsating, A text message is nigh Through my sleepy haze, You rudely awake me with a beep, No, no I must deny thee, My eyes close tightly. Thy ringtone is music to my ears, Where for art thou my sweet mobile phone? Alas a distraction in class, Perchance did I leave you at home? I pray we shall always be as one, Together with ... Children Writing Poetry Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:36:43 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-homework-t159.htm#296 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-homework-t159.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-2-t158.htm amandawoo Using non-fiction to inspire The fire came from nowhere Its vicious flames raging and ruining everything in their path Terrifying and scorching people old and young And my beloved home It wiped away my 20 years of hard work in mere minutes Leaving me with nothing but charcoal and numbness I’ll never see my friends and neighbours again I feel guilty yet grateful I still have my boys. Directed task One hour lesson plan for Key Stage 2 class – What similes are ... Children Writing Poetry Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:25:15 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-2-t158.htm#295 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-2-t158.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/attempt-at-poetry-writing-t147.htm liane.klingbeil@bathspa.o Sound Floating, fluttering way up high Gracing us with your ethereal presence Tweeting, shrieking casting shadows Vanishing slowly, beautiful evanescence Ode to candlelight You startle the dark From a tiny spark Burn so bright Exuding delight Warm to be near Holding strong through the years Even when Shakespeare Couldn’t write for tears You were burning bright Providing him with candlelight A beacon of pure hope Glowing through the dark ... Children Writing Poetry Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:16:48 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/attempt-at-poetry-writing-t147.htm#281 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/attempt-at-poetry-writing-t147.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-attempts-and-lesson-ideas-t151.htm robloaring Inspiration from Sound Home A solitary Bird calls, tweeting, singing, calling out Calmly listening awaiting fresh retort Its soul mate chirping, twittering, responding, confirming A comfort in partnership Patient thoughts fulfil me Home can be so peaceful I can hear the river waters rising like many times before The waters trickle, babble and flow Before thundering over the wear A solitary loneliness A weary traveller rests Home can be so peacefu Compose ... Children Writing Poetry Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:20:29 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-attempts-and-lesson-ideas-t151.htm#285 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-attempts-and-lesson-ideas-t151.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/more-of-the-same-t157.htm Admin Again. ought really to be collated into some sort of book. Very fascinating, very honest, very varied. Very very. ]]> Children's Literature Commentary Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:21:57 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/more-of-the-same-t157.htm#292 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/more-of-the-same-t157.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/reflections-on-poetry-teaching-f8/great-verse-t156.htm Admin Mixed bag of responses - from some it would be hard to know what task was set, and some people aren't here at all yet, which is obviously disappointing, but those of you who have posted will have seen that not only is the poetry of the group fabulous, but the maturity of response to thoughts about how to teach it is showing real progress indeed since September - we're really on track. Someone ought to put all these poems in a book - some are just cracking. Surely Immee has written verse before?? ... Reflections on poetry teaching Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:59:33 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/reflections-on-poetry-teaching-f8/great-verse-t156.htm#291 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/reflections-on-poetry-teaching-f8/great-verse-t156.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/writing-poetry-t155.htm angiehirst Writing Poetry Out of the different approaches to writing poetry, I found that the inspirations from imagery helped me the most. This is perhaps because, as I have discovered during this course, that I am a very visual learner. I have always had a very active imagination and have found that whenever I try to remember something, or find my way somewhere, I always have a picture in my head of what I am looking for. Another reason that I may have found this approach worked best for me was that ... Children Writing Poetry Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:56:02 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/writing-poetry-t155.htm#290 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/writing-poetry-t155.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/amazing-poetry-from-the-great-fionajavascriptemoticonp-joker-t150.htm Fi Inspiration from sound: Sea Sash….Sash….Sash….Sash…Sash The silken folds of her dress Shimmying up shore She…..She…..She….She….She Screeching gulls, scraping shale Hiss and salty roar Inspiration from form and structure: Ode to a Cadbury’s Creme Egg Oh How dost thou eat thine? There is no correct way Eater beware, despite all thy care Onto cheeks some stickiness must stray Some ladies demonstrate nibbles of natural delicacy Some ... Children Writing Poetry Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:28:42 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/amazing-poetry-from-the-great-fionajavascriptemoticonp-joker-t150.htm#284 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/amazing-poetry-from-the-great-fionajavascriptemoticonp-joker-t150.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/follow-up-writing-and-teaching-t154.htm Jon - Of all the techniques used, I enjoyed writing the Ode the most. I found writing with the focus of fixed rules helpful and also found the more historical elements enjoyable to indulge in. - As I write for pleasure I found writing on demand exciting - it panders to my false hope that I could take it further. - I would say Writing from Perspective was the best for developing my skills - particularly writing from the two contrasting viewpoints - thinking about the earth from space is probably ... Children Writing Poetry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:39:15 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/follow-up-writing-and-teaching-t154.htm#288 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/follow-up-writing-and-teaching-t154.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/a-few-blizzard-inspired-lines-t153.htm Jon Sound - Birdsong FM Cantata of summer, nature and life Of flauting finch and whistling wren Tunefully tooting to the tops of the trees They would pierce were it not for the lungs of the rest. Like a wood pigeon's rippling clarinet tongue Drowned out by crowing Wagnerian brass And driven by the piping cuckoo organ Layered by strings of a distant vehicle. Ode to Cricket What parallel sound could enter thy ear Than the names of Tilakaratne and Jayasuria Spoken ... Children Writing Poetry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:32:59 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/a-few-blizzard-inspired-lines-t153.htm#287 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/a-few-blizzard-inspired-lines-t153.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-one-t152.htm amandawoo Using rhyme to inspire I once knew a boy called Chad Who was totally, utterly mad An L.A. actor Who’d sung on X factor To Michael Jackson’s number one ‘Bad’. Oh how I’d like to be strong And lift buildings like King Kong I could carry my shoppin’ Without stoppin’ and droppin’ And nothin’ on earth would go wrong. I really love buying new shoes, I’ve got ones that I’ll ever use They make my feet sore But I’m always sure I could do with ... Children Writing Poetry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:52:03 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-one-t152.htm#286 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-part-one-t152.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/trials-and-tribulations-of-a-poet-t149.htm Venetia I think I found all the stuff on odes most useful. I definitely think a softly, softly, gradual approach to writing poetry is the most productive and the least likely to scare the kids. I actually found that I tended to include rhyme in my poetry, without really thinking about it. I think that this helped me to create some structure to my poems, but when I came across the enforced rhyming slide I had serious writer's block. This challenge really lacked any stimulus, and I think this is what ... Children Writing Poetry Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:55:54 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/trials-and-tribulations-of-a-poet-t149.htm#283 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/trials-and-tribulations-of-a-poet-t149.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/pretty-dreadful-poetry-t148.htm Venetia Ghost Whistling and wailing came the wind, Its icy breath cooling blood and bones. Its purpose is to warn those who’ve sinned That the dead no longer lie beneath stones. For they are coming to terror the souls Of those who’ve forgotten others. By cheating neighbours and stealing coals And wives off their brothers. Ode to the Megabus O how often do you serve me? You never fail to find me The cheapest seat to London town For the equivalent of half a crown. As ... Children Writing Poetry Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:31:53 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/pretty-dreadful-poetry-t148.htm#282 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/pretty-dreadful-poetry-t148.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t146.htm angiehirst Teenage Fiction Entry into adolescence can be a time when the whole world seems to be overflowing with new information. For most it can be time of almost overwhelming realisations and the discovery of a whole stream of never ending questions and choices, many of which often seem to have come all at once, almost like some sort of epiphany towards your existence and the existence of the world around you. This might sound a bit elaborate but I know it was certainly true of my entry into adolescence. ... Children's Literature Commentary Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:37:11 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t146.htm#280 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t146.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/my-poetic-attempts-and-thoughts-t140.htm Immalee My poems Birdsong Hooting triple coo Reminded of summer, long days reveling In warmth, rivers, friends. Lying back sharing cheap wine, listening Three notes warbled, a gargling screech Trembling, chirping, rising A rusty door. One repeated note Of nostalgia and yearning Ode to books Within your covers are pages full of places I’m easily transported, my head suddenly filled With people, loves, despairs and faces You captivate me and hold me stilled My ... Children Writing Poetry Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:55:07 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/my-poetic-attempts-and-thoughts-t140.htm#273 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/my-poetic-attempts-and-thoughts-t140.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-tasks-t145.htm Joanna Moan Waves Retreat, escape, rush and surge, Whisper the waves, Closer, closer, CRASH, EXPLODE, Recoil and wait. Ode To Dance Liberating art that frees my shackles, Allow weighty limbs to soar skyward bound, Reach, stretch, leap, clamber, pulling me upwards, Released from chains my body is found. Cool currents of peace run through my spirit, Chain reactions ripple into the air, Self unite under almighty presence, Conquer oppression, expression flows forth. As ... Children Writing Poetry Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:35:08 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-tasks-t145.htm#278 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/poetry-tasks-t145.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-literature-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t144.htm pratiksha1 How have all the above developed your understanding of children’s literature and the issues surrounding it? Teenage fiction is certainly an area which I’d never even considered as being so full of controversy - and yet it’s so obvious given the turbulent emotions and developments which occur during adolescence. I have now gained an appreciation for teen fiction and understand the importance of such literature for today’s young adults. However, I still have ambivalent feelings ... Children's Literature Commentary Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:59:34 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-literature-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t144.htm#277 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-literature-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t144.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-kicks-t143.htm Fi How have all the readings developed your understanding of children’s literature and the issues surrounding it? “in actual fact, the numbers of people who seriously think that young people 14 and up can’t handle this sort of material are actually an odd minority holding an extreme opinion that is hardly shared by the rest of society.” (Melvin Burgess on “Junk”) According to Burgess I am a minority with an extreme view but I do not believe that most people think that Junk ... Children's Literature Commentary Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:10:02 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-kicks-t143.htm#276 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-kicks-t143.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenagers-and-fiction-t142.htm Jon Maybe I listen to too many radio phone-ins, but it appears that the division between adults and teenagers is getting wider and increasingly complex. We as adults are generally never satisfied with what teenagers are - either telling them to 'grow-up' as teachers, or trying to trap them into permanent childhood as parents. As illustrated by both Appleyard and the podcast, the concept of the teenager is a relatively new one. Before compulsory education, mass attendance at university and modern ... Children's Literature Commentary Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:17:22 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenagers-and-fiction-t142.htm#275 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenagers-and-fiction-t142.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/developing-understanding-of-teen-childrens-literature-t141.htm robloaring Warning: may contain rambling............... Teenage fiction, to my now fading memory of school and of being a teenager I’m pretty sure our school had a ‘young adult’ (YA) reading section rather than ‘teenage fiction’ that would have been to obviously directed at us and we wanted to be young adults above teenagers, when this distinction came I’m not sure but I do remember the books in the YA sections were certainly not the teen fiction Burgess mentions, somehow point horror ... Children's Literature Commentary Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:26 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/developing-understanding-of-teen-childrens-literature-t141.htm#274 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/developing-understanding-of-teen-childrens-literature-t141.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-and-the-issues-around-it-t139.htm liane.klingbeil@bathspa.o How have all the readings developed your understanding of children’s literature and the issues surrounding it? Teenage fiction appears to be a big grey area in my eyes and there does seem to be a select few who actually address this genre specifically, I have to agree with Burgess on this that there does seem to be a gap in the market here. This often troublesome time as a teen Appleyard (1991) identified as accompanied by a want for freedom without the want for responsibility. This is ... Children's Literature Commentary Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:53:55 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-and-the-issues-around-it-t139.htm#272 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-and-the-issues-around-it-t139.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teen-fiction-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t137.htm amandawoo How have all the readings developed your understanding of children’s literature and the issues surrounding it? Teenage fiction is the category of books which is written by adults for teenagers and is usually read by teenagers. These books move on from the imaginative fiction that attracted children, to more realistic topics concerned with adolescent problems such as body changes with puberty and relationships with boyfriends/girlfriends. Some good books for teenagers are written by adults ... Children's Literature Commentary Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:05:51 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teen-fiction-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t137.htm#269 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teen-fiction-and-the-issues-surrounding-it-t137.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t138.htm Immalee How has my understanding of children’s literature and the issues surrounding it developed through our recent focus on teenage fiction? I have become aware that there is a huge range of material encompassed by the term ‘children’s literature’ – from Peepo! to Junk. Children vary enormously from three to seventeen, and therefore what they read varies, but also how and why they read. I have become conscious that I read differently now from how I did as a teenager – that is I respond ... Children's Literature Commentary Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:31:57 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t138.htm#270 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-s-literature-commentary-f10/teenage-fiction-t138.htm http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/mel-s-poems-and-reflections-t136.htm Melissa Ricketts Inspiration from sound The far away roar of relentless repetition Sombre they vigorously collide, Crashing together the sinister pattern unfolds The power of insignificant solitude. Bitter cold cascades and intertwines, Tranquillity swishes amongst the danger, The distant thunder of nature’s plan Disappearing in an instant. Inspiration from form and structure Ode to a Cadbury’s Crème Egg Your perfect form and shiny attire Oh how you entice me! Standing ... Children Writing Poetry Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:22:37 GMT http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/mel-s-poems-and-reflections-t136.htm#268 http://thehomeofsir.forumotion.net/children-writing-poetry-f11/mel-s-poems-and-reflections-t136.htm